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</table>Damiphttp://2013.igem.org/wiki/index.php?title=Team:Paris_Saclay/ellen_interview&diff=279342&oldid=prevCarolineMir: /* Ellen Jorgensen */2013-10-03T17:06:47Z<p><span class="autocomment">Ellen Jorgensen</span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><span style="color:#FF0000">Ellen :</span> This technology is very powerful ! Of course there is a dangerous side to it, but then there is side that promises unbelievable benefits. Like any technology, like electricity or nuclear power, you have to handle it properly…You have to steer the exploration in the right direction but to shut it down is not the answer. And in particular with this technology, as I said DNA is already open source, if someone wants to do something related to DNA, he can just extract it from anything around him. So yes, there shouldn’t be completely unbridled experimentation without any oversight at all, but it shouldn’t be completely opposite where you say, well we don’t think that we should even do this technology because we are still evaluating it. That’s ridiculous. We’ve been doing genetic engineering since the 1970’s, so it’s not something completely unknown. Synthetic biology is just making it faster and easier.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><span style="color:#FF0000">Ellen :</span> This technology is very powerful ! Of course there is a dangerous side to it, but then there is side that promises unbelievable benefits. Like any technology, like electricity or nuclear power, you have to handle it properly…You have to steer the exploration in the right direction but to shut it down is not the answer. And in particular with this technology, as I said DNA is already open source, if someone wants to do something related to DNA, he can just extract it from anything around him. So yes, there shouldn’t be completely unbridled experimentation without any oversight at all, but it shouldn’t be completely opposite where you say, well we don’t think that we should even do this technology because we are still evaluating it. That’s ridiculous. We’ve been doing genetic engineering since the 1970’s, so it’s not something completely unknown. Synthetic biology is just making it faster and easier.</div></td></tr>
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I had <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>worked <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>during 25 years in biotechnology and I thought it was great that people who wanted to do <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">it can do it without </del>being told by their schools they <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">have </del>to take this class<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, people </del>who were really curious about science and wanted to practice it…. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">And if </del>you look to iGEM, the <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">USA are … </del>the other countries support their teams a lot better. The value of this <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">king </del>of exercise is important to me, and I wanted to provide a place where people could <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">make </del>biology, genetic engineering or anything like that. And also, <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">it </del>was <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">important to </del>my carreer to <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">make </del>something different. I <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">don’t </del>want to be just a PhD scientist in a lab working on series of projects, I wanted to make a more global impact<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">.</del>. </div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><span style="color:#FF0000">Ellen :</span> Well, I think everyone who started Genspace had a different motivation<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">. There was an artist who wanted </ins>a place, a lab where <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">she </ins>could <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">work on art-related </ins>biology. <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">There were two students who could not get labspace </ins>in <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">their university.They had </ins>ideas they wanted to try and they <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">wanted training</ins>, <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">and no one was giving them any </ins>space<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, </ins>because funding <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">is very tight in the United States and people can’t afford to take on students working on projects not directly related to their grants, [especially] someone who is not trained</ins>. <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">A person was </ins>a <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">science writer who thought that this was a very interesting trend and he didn’t want to miss what was going on</ins>. <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">And </ins>I had worked during 25 years in biotechnology and I thought it was great that people who wanted to do <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[biology] voluntarily, not </ins>being told by their schools they <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">had </ins>to take this class<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">. People </ins>who were really curious about science and wanted to practice it…. <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">If </ins>you look to iGEM, the <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">United States very rarely win, </ins>the other countries support their teams a lot better. The value of this <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">kind </ins>of exercise is important to me, and I wanted to provide a place where people could <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">do synthetic biology </ins>biology, genetic engineering or anything like that <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">and not have to convince the university or company to let them have space</ins>. And also, <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">I </ins>was <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">at a point in </ins>my carreer <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">I wanted </ins>to <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">do </ins>something different. I <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">didn’t </ins>want to be just a PhD scientist in a lab working on series of projects, I wanted to make a more global impact.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>-</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><span style="color:#0000FF">Team Paris Saclay :</span> Do you think that people without a scientific education can make and understand biology and synthetic biology ? </del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><span style="color:#FF0000">Ellen :</span> It happens every day at genspace<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">!</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>-</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><span style="color:#FF0000">Ellen :</span> I think that people are curious, curious about the world, this <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">king </del>of technology and they are interested in it. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">People </del>that <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">come said </del>it’s good for their <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">carreers </del>to <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">learn </del>a little more about this stuff. Now <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">people come in </del>my <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">class want </del>to <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">develop </del>project in <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">my </del>lab but a good number of them do.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><span style="color:#FF0000">Ellen :</span>I think that people are curious, curious about the world, <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">they have heard some stuff about </ins>this <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">kind </ins>of technology and they are interested in it. <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">What surprises me is </ins>that <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">a lot of them say </ins>it’s good for their <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">career or it has impacted their career </ins>to <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">know </ins>a little more about this stuff. Now <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">not everyone who takes </ins>my <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">classes is going </ins>to <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">go on actually do a </ins>project in <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">the </ins>lab<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, </ins>but a good number of them do. <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Our work takes a commitment of time. It’s not so much the ability to understand, it’s the time commitment that holds people back. </ins>You know we <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">had </ins>people without formal training at all, doing genetic engineering, PCR and making <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">constructs</ins>. <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">And then we have the general public coming and doing things like DNA bar coding. And that’s people just off the street. We explain what we are doing and walk them through it and they do it</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><span style="color:#FF0000">Ellen :</span> This technology is very powerful ! Of course there is a dangerous side to it, but then there is side that promises unbelievable benefits. Like any technology, like electricity or nuclear power, you have to handle it properly…You have to steer the exploration in the right direction but to shut it down is not the answer. And in particular with this technology, as I said DNA is already open source, if someone wants to do something related to DNA, he can just extract it from anything around him. So yes, there shouldn’t be completely unbridled experimentation without any oversight at all, but it shouldn’t be completely opposite where you say, well we don’t think that we should even do this technology because we are still evaluating it. That’s ridiculous. We’ve been doing genetic engineering since the 1970’s, so it’s not something completely unknown. Synthetic biology is just making it faster and easier.</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>-</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><span style="color:#<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">FF0000</del>"><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Ellen </del>:</span> <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">All this technology is very powerful ! Of course there is a dangerous side but one of the promises is </del>an <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">unbelievable benefit</del>.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>-</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">…</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><span style="color:#<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">0000FF</ins>"><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Team Paris Saclay </ins>:</span> <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">When you work in </ins>an <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">academic space, you are very much controlled</ins>. <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> Do you follow some rules</ins>, <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">laws</ins>, do <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">you have constraints as we have in an academic research center?</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>-</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">And in particular in this technology</del>, <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">as I said DNA is already open source</del>, <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">if someone wants to </del>do <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">something related to DNA, he can just extract it from thing around him. … 12.02 Making biology is just faster and easier.</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>-</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><span style="color:#<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">0000FF</del>"><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Team Paris Saclay </del>:</span> <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">When you work on synthetic biology </del>in <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">an academic space you </del>are <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">very controlled</del>, <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">do you follow some rules</del>, <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">laws</del>, <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">do you </del>have <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">constraints as </del>we have in <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">an academic research center ? </del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><span style="color:#<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">FF0000</ins>"><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Ellen </ins>:</span> <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Of course we do, and I think that because there’s so much public attention </ins>in <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">DIY labs, in lots of way there </ins>are <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">actually safer than university labs. We have a science advisory board that includes the biosafety officer from MIT</ins>, <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Claudia Mickelson</ins>, <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">as well as a bunch of other people that have degrees and many years of experience. That’s on top of the two people running it</ins>, <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">myself and Oliver [Medvedik] both having PhD in molecular biology … We also </ins>have <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">safety training that is mandatory for all members before they set foot in the lab. We dispose of all our chemicals and living organisms the same way a university does. We contract waste companies and package them the way they say, and they dispose of it according to US regulations. I don’t really see that much difference… Having worked in a lot small start-up biotechnology companies in the US, a DIY lab is not that much different. It’s a small lab with not a lot of funding, maybe in an unconventional space. I used to work in a biotech company that was in a hospital building. I don’t really see what all the fuss is about…</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>-</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><span style="color:#<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">0000FF</del>"><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Team Paris Saclay </del>:</span> <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">We gonna build a bacteria which can degrade PCBs, do </del>you <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">think </del>it <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">is </del>a good idea to <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">put </del>GMO in water ?</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><span style="color:#<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">FF0000</ins>"><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Ellen </ins>:</span> <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">It depends on how </ins>you <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">are doing </ins>it <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">! I mean, certainly it’s not </ins>a good idea to <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">just release </ins>GMO in water <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">system to clean it up… but they use bacteria to clean oil out of … There are certain industrial practices that produce oil and there is water, and there is oil, and they put them in big vats and they’re trying to dispose of it. And before they dispose of it the bacteria eat the oil, they get to the point where they don’t have any more food and they die, and that’s one stage of the purification process of the material before it can be put in a landfill or whatever. So, if you’re going to do something like that, what’s the problem</ins>? <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">That’s a lot different than releasing live organisms into the environment. Anything like that has to be monitored. No one, that I know of, is advocating releasing live GMOs into the environment without any testing or studying of what the consequences would be.</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>-</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><span style="color:#0000FF">Team Paris Saclay :</span> When we talk about the Open Source, people think about computer science, free software, but not about biology, so for you, what is the bio-open source<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">.</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><span style="color:#0000FF">Team Paris Saclay :</span> When we talk about the Open Source, people think about computer science, free software, but not about biology, so for you, what is the bio-open source <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">?</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>-</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><span style="color:#FF0000">Ellen :</span> Well, I think <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">that </del>biology is <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">a natural </del>open source, DNA is everywhere, and the only thing that …. The all biobricks foundation and the idea of the BB library is a necessary and interesting <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">… </del>for mechanism open source</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><span style="color:#FF0000">Ellen :</span> Well, I think biology <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">by nature </ins>is <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">an </ins>open source, DNA is everywhere, and the only thing that …. The all biobricks foundation and the idea of the BB library is a necessary and interesting <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">level </ins>for mechanism open source</div></td></tr>
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<span style="color:#0000FF">Team Paris Saclay :</span> You are the co-founder and the president of Genspace (a nonprofit organization dedicated to promoting citizen science and access to biotechnology), what are you motivations ?<br />
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<span style="color:#FF0000">Ellen :</span> Well, I think everyone who started Genspace had different motivation, because its hard to find a place, a lab where we could make synthetic biology. Students in universities have ideas they wanted to try and they need to train, but they don’t have a space to practice because a founding. So they wanted a lab space. I work during 25 years in biotechnology and I though it will be great that people want to do it …. People curious …. And if you look the iGEM, the USA are … the other countries support its teams better. The value of this king of exercise is important to me, and I want to provide a place where people could make biology, genetic biology or anything like that. And also, it was important to my carreer to make something different. I don’t want to be just a PhD scientist in a lab, I wanted to share a project. <br />
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<span style="color:#0000FF">Team Paris Saclay :</span> When we talk about the Open Source, people think about computer science, free software, but not about biology, so for you, what is the bio-open source.<br />
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<span style="color:#FF0000">Ellen :</span> Well, I think that biology is a natural open source, DNA is everywhere, and the only thing that …. The all biobricks foundation and the idea of the BB library is a necessary and interesting … for mechanism open source<br />
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<span style="color:#0000FF">Team Paris Saclay :</span> Do you think that people without scientific education can make and understand biology and synthetic biology ? <br />
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<span style="color:#FF0000">Ellen :</span> Its happen every day at genspace<br />
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<span style="color:#0000FF">Team Paris Saclay :</span> What are their motivations ?<br />
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<span style="color:#FF0000">Ellen :</span> I think that people are curious, curious about the world, this king of technology and they are interesting in it. People that come said it’s good for their carreers to learn a little more about this stuff. Now people come in my class want to develop project in my lab ….<br />
You know we have people without formal training at all, doing genetic engineering and making construct …. <br />
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<span style="color:#0000FF">Team Paris Saclay :</span> What do you say to people that are afraid by GMO and think it’s too dangerous ?<br />
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<span style="color:#FF0000">Ellen :</span> All this technology is very powerful ! Of course there is dangerous side but the promises are unbelievable benefit<br />
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And in particular in this technology, as I said DNA is open source, if someone wants to do something related with DNA, he can just extracted it from thing around him. … 12.02 Making biology is just faster and easier.<br />
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<span style="color:#0000FF">Team Paris Saclay :</span> When you work on synthetic biology in an academic space you are very controlled, do you follow some rules, laws, do you have constraint as we have in academic center ? <br />
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<span style="color:#FF0000">Ellen :</span> Of course we do, and I think its because there’s so much public attention in DIY labs that … We have a scientist biology bord that include the biosafetyafficer from MIT …. A bunch of our people that have degree and many experience … We also have safety training, 13:20 … We dispose of all chemical … It’s a small lab with a lot of funding in an unconventional space …<br />
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<span style="color:#FF0000">Ellen :</span> It’s depend in how you want to doing it ! I mean, it’s not a good idea to just release GMO in water to clean it up… <br />
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